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We recently encountered customer complaint regarding roll telescoping.  Presently, we have the same tension settings for two different types of foil that have different roughness values. Would you recommend a higher or lower rewind tension for smoother foil surface (less roughness value)?

While roughness and COF often trend together, it does not necessarily follow that smoother surfaces are slipperier.  Besides, COF is what matters.  The exception is that at higher speeds (over a few hundred FPM), air entrainment is increased and the effective COF will decrease.  Keep in mind that with some products (paper, film) it is possible/common to be able decouple smoothness and COF by chemistry.

In any case, let the winding roll tell you what is needed.  If it does not telescope (or have other identifiable defect), no tension change need be made.  If it telescopes, you must increase the starting tension and/or decreasing the tension at the finish (i.e., increase taper though I abhor the term for reasons I’ve written about on many occasions).  These moves must be made until you either kill the telescope or that you run into some other limit of web (tension rarely can run outside of 10-25% of yield), wound roll defect, or machine limitation.  This discussion presumes (and we all know what ASSUME stands for) that you have a Type 1 telescope.  Unfortunately, people use the word ‘telescope’ for too many things.  (Pictures would really help here).  So, if you called a telescope the loss of roll edge quality at the top of the roll (at the latter stages of winding), then our strategy would be completely different:  reverse taper.

I have attached an introduction to winding from my Web101 series that has a few slides on the common type of telescoping.  You could also go to school where things like this can be better explained.  I teach Web Handling and Winding in Chicago at the end of March.

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Dr. David Roisum

Dr. Roisum is a well-known authority in the area of web handling and converting. He has authored seven books, including Winding, Rollers and Web-Handling and has coauthored or edited several others. He was a technical editor for Converting Magazine with a monthly column entitled "Web Works." An accomplished professional speaker and instructor, Roisum has been praised for his skill at translating highly technical information into a common sense practical reference. Dave has been honored by TAPPI with their Finishing & Converting Division Award, Thomas W. Busch Prize and Finest Faculty awards and is a TAPPI Fellow. Dave received his Ph.D. from the Web Handling Research Center where he later became an Industrial Advisory Board member.

Dave has worked for the Beloit Corporation as a designer of winding machinery and later as a manager of research, and for Kimberly-Clark as a converting expert serving all business units. He is now a principal of Finishing Technologies Inc., providing consulting services to more than 300 clients who convert or manufacture: paper, film, foil, nonwovens, textiles and many other materials. He has accumulated much practical experience working in nearly 1,000 plants over the course of more than three decades.