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Blogmaster: Dr. David Roisum

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The following is historical fiction.  One where certain essential details are accurate, but the ‘conversation’ has been rewritten to protect the guilty.

Dear Dr. Roisum,

I was your student in a Converting School back in 20__. We now have a difficult web-handling problem caused by baggy web.  We have to cut down the cost of our products, so we tried cheaper film supplied by a new company.

It appears foolish to try to 'save' money by going to a cheaper film supplier,

especially since the result has now proven itself as increased waste/delay due to bagginess,

especially since that film is so readily available from many sources and generally quite flat

especially since the product you make, _____, is so demanding

But new film has a baggy web problem. Its thickness is 38 micrometers. The thickness variation is ONLY [my caps for emphasis] 0.6 micrometers, almost same as the one that we usually used.

The 0.6/38 thickness variation is 1.5%, which is only ‘ordinary’, not necessarily ‘good’ and certainly ‘not good enough’ for you as evidenced by increased baggy troubles.

We tried to do “strip test” that you taught me. As a result, we found there was a 0.1% length difference despite using the center cut roll. We thought the length different caused the baggy problem.

A 0.1% (1/1,000) is not even ordinary, it is a gross variation in almost any application.  Even so, strip test measurement is time-consuming to do accurately.  Have you tried a roll hardness measurement such as the Paro-tester to see if it is predictive of bagginess?

The workers adjust the alignment of a roller to keep away from a baggy problem. They ask me about easier solution.

I would NOT misalign rollers to adjust to bagginess.  Rather, I would optically align your machine so that you do not contribute to the problem.  If it is absolutely necessary to skew a roller:

            only a roller or two in front of critical processes such as a coating roller

            have a micrometer adjustment capable of 10 microns per 'click'

            have the micrometer zeroed to 20 microns so the operators can get back to home

In the seminar, you taught me “I Roller made by METSO”. But I couldn’t find the information. Could you tell me more information?

iRoll and IQ tension systems cost on the order of $100,000 and are far more expensive than just buying good film.

Any tips on how to handle the bagginess in this case, especially equipment?

You have probably tried everything reasonable; good tension control, effective application of spreading; precision alignment of your own equipment.  You really are left with two basic choices

            Return to a film supplier that can supply flat material

            Accept the extra waste/delay caused by baggy material

Tell me some other papers or books about this problem.

You already have a nice module on wrinkling from my Web101 class.  There is a baggy web article you can download from my website.  Finally, I attach a module on baggy web troubleshooting (AIMCAL AWEB 2008) that you can pass on to your supplier with the warning that if they can't get the problem fixed, you will go elsewhere to get a flat product.

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Dr. David Roisum

Dr. Roisum is a well-known authority in the area of web handling and converting. He has authored seven books, including Winding, Rollers and Web-Handling and has coauthored or edited several others. He was a technical editor for Converting Magazine with a monthly column entitled "Web Works." An accomplished professional speaker and instructor, Roisum has been praised for his skill at translating highly technical information into a common sense practical reference. Dave has been honored by TAPPI with their Finishing & Converting Division Award, Thomas W. Busch Prize and Finest Faculty awards and is a TAPPI Fellow. Dave received his Ph.D. from the Web Handling Research Center where he later became an Industrial Advisory Board member.

Dave has worked for the Beloit Corporation as a designer of winding machinery and later as a manager of research, and for Kimberly-Clark as a converting expert serving all business units. He is now a principal of Finishing Technologies Inc., providing consulting services to more than 300 clients who convert or manufacture: paper, film, foil, nonwovens, textiles and many other materials. He has accumulated much practical experience working in nearly 1,000 plants over the course of more than three decades.